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small to your home network some of us

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some of you might have seen this year

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last year where we

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through some of the cases over the years

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and stuff well so as a group we just

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look up Welsh cases just keep it

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manageable to be important into the

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witnesses we're just gonna roll it

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basically tonight's talk you might have

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seen some of the slights here last year

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because they did touch on a couple of

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the sightings but tonight we're gonna

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elaborate our on it and we've got videos

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of witness interviews to show you which

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will be sorted in as we go through but

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basically we're talking about the events

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of the evening of the leg teams of

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January 1983 long time ago but a lot of

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witnesses are still alive because some

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at the time were just children so they

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but they could still remember it like we

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should we you've been to be witnesses

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Tommy who were sometimes of sightings or

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experiences from many many years ago but

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it's etched in their memories it's such

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a profound effect on them six active in

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case yeah right Swati reform Network

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we're basically Swansea was the name

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applies and this is a picture of us on

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top of a hill known as killed a hill

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which is just above the city centre

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party and kill the hill think it's a

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couple of times in the stories of the

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boats turning tonight must have been

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looking up across Swansea Bay and just

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to get your bearings with a map da

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length drawn Swansea Bay is a nice

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curved Bay five miles long ending it

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mumbles head with us to little islands

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and this is the curve assorted they feel

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so secure it's difficult in this one

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month kill many others basically there

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okay so that's about five miles you get

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a bit of the scale like squash the rest

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of the old plundered DeMorgan in just to

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get Cardiff in because even though a lot

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of the action from that might have

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happened in this area that we were

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feeling sightings from

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our stuff will so about the squeeze they

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then just do so we can get larger any

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other words Swati will be tiny I don't

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really get Evan end of it that's late

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please wait this is a better view of

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Swansea Bay so you can get things

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Britain's on these city by the sea rock

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business while in livin' way listen area

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good with Scotland

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I was thinking over the Labour I've been

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really forced my head all the cities or

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all the tongues in England because I

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think legal terms aren't any cities

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Swansea is any city by the state

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that's like this kill they help very

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very prominent landmark like that

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specific center that's swatting the read

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map which is the Old South darkness

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export coal from there many years ago

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and Swansea is at the southern end of

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Swansea Valley with a river Tom it flows

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down into the into Swansea Bay make you

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see the on top of kill we know there's a

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radio mast my fingers a couple of times

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in the sightings of a nice one to show

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these to you just so you can get feel of

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the locality so you can get the

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geography and head this is the three of

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us the main bodies and super honest

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myself on the left when I was twice the

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size little Steve gruesome Mike on the

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right is like look this photograph was

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taken from her it was in a press

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particle that we often put out because I

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think it's important to get up to the

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general public to let them know they

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were here

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and it encourages people to come forward

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and one of the witnesses are going to

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look out short shortly later go

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Matthews saw an article in the local

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paper about the night of the travels and

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he nearly choked on his breakfast he

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said to his wife my god this much smoked

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in the house when he was 10 12 years old

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he said they've even got a name for it

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into the triangles we can't do the name

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like the trend was to give it a sort of

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identity because it was the mask writing

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and dozens and dozens of people saw us

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just in the swampy area if not hundreds

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okay that's funny listen better map of

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South Wales online just go you see the

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doesn't stay out okay Cardiff that this

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Swansea you see Swansea Bay nice to go

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with insula tell what's cool can't do it

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mentioned those places again this is an

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old map of Swansea and if you see this

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Swansea body goes up there and then he

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got remember these nearly choked in his

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breakfast he was actually in this

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locality yes next one so the liver kill

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they help right the first on the evening

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the evening really kicks off with the

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first light thing it was it was reported

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in the local paper has been 515 but

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we've actually had to do the witness and

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she says it was actually 545 so that's

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that's when it really kicked off with

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the first witness that we have we've

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managed to track down it was a lady

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called the young Gaskins and she was

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about 15 years old and she was living in

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skinned can you go back she was living

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in a place will skew in which is on the

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edge of least she was looking up she

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just come on from school and she was

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looking up to the kitchen window which

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was on first floor because that was

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built on the side of a hill kitchen was

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on the first floor

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looking south for basically what she

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said she she saw she saw some lights

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what would kill they help so to have it

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right down sight but she was looking

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stuff and she said these lights were

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sort of just sitting over the radio

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all of a sudden they sort of jumped to

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the right so the Neriah roughly over the

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city center you can see the city center

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just to the right of their suite to the

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left of their right stated for other

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than they jump back to kill Bay Hill and

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then all of a sudden you know the speed

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was phenomenal is like like that we

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suddenly jumped about five miles to the

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there and she was an absolutely huge

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object covered in lights and it was

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hovering over the all the oil refinery

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that was there this BP found out the oil

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refinery in that shot next one again

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right like where she was Raziel those

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houses at the left at the top of the

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picture to have that skin so she was

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roughly in that area looking south

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something of the Elantra Flannery and

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she's sitting subsea feared she covered

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it actually covered the area of the oil

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of thunder in the next shot he gives you

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an idea of size it's a huge site so she

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was what I stood I like to this picture

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look in that way she city was he was hit

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glasses all night descends gerald

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there we actually interviewed she gave

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us a lot more information that wasn't

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what was in the in the in the local

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yes she was hanging out the window and

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she told the mother to cover the father

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of the figure two sisters okay as well

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from the government doesn't fight them

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looking at the window she said it was

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triangular with lights all over it

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fussing randomly in different colors she

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could see the body of the craft due to

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being like tight and its distance away

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from her so she couldn't see the body to

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make sense just saw the left side but

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the lights suggested to shape who was

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very vague and seemed to cover the whole

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of Bravo Marie the parents Martin and I

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Breton sister Carrie then came from luck

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his father worked at the factory and

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wondered if he should tell someone

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because under the row of houses that

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they were living for five houses 8 beta

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eights men actually worked at the

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refinery as soon as it was a big

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employer in the area so the animals

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hanging up the windows brightened the

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object stately in position over the

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refinery for about five minutes and then

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he moved up slowly a little to just

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moved up slightly and shot up vertically

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up a site in a black box straight up now

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throughout the entire site thing which

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lasted 12 12 to 15 minutes

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no son was not just apart from the drum

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a linear by a 48 dual carriageway so

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that was the first witness accounts the

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so that was last triangle scene going

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how do people feel like when we come to

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now Robison plans okay that's not as I

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mentioned slain in Matthews well Simon

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was living as I said he was about two or

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three miles further east than what this

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was and we trapped Simon Dermott the

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same actually contacted us actually

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source in the paper and we went up to

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the do it video with interviewer and the

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back in the background you'll see the

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house that he lived in at the time is up

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but we'll just the others like the hedge

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behind me and his viewpoint of it was

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straight down the valley on the horizon

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that sort of looked in the middle that's

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kill the hill that's where the oil

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Oh till either we believe the video and

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that's that Simon explained this is the

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Evening Post article from the following

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day that he can remember seeing this is

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the nice construction reconstruction

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that Samuel actually did himself of his

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view he actually saw two sets of three

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red lights over the oil refinery but

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differed to what the younger skin saw

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which he said it was a huge object

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covered in lights in all different

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colors he said he actually saw two

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triangle formations I believe they were

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blinking on and off and he did a nice

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what we've come here

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it's kind of yeah showing a palisade

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nah see over at the time there was no H

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over lambda have suggested payment

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straight onto the grass I shall play it

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on my BMX right on the pole with a much

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better team might only be max Adams it's

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already gone darkens they start even

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though exude cousin Charlie it was dark

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I got my bike over towards the corner of

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the street to to deduct it also that

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reward the people Darcy or we find these

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on the top of their vehicles explain if

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you see two triangular craft hovering

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above the works the to drag across the

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piece instead of six regulates in order

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so there's three regulates on each

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strand a fact only two corners of the

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triangle this is what my fluxes and the

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craft of the works almost as though they

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were scanned in the area below them and

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they washed it out cycles I immediately

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knew something swings was happening at

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the new ways witnessing something these

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and didn't know what it was but I knew

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there was something strange going on

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there watched it was all well and then I

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run into my house

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[\h__\h] door into the kitchen and I shall

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dig my own mouth

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coming up next to me there's you before

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words about BP times you wouldn't come

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up she was clean then on the way to her

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house her but she knows what and she

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wouldn't come with me I begged over to

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help but she wouldn't come out anyway I

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came back out I can't be mad about what

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happened then but I skipped over the day

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and then the next day on the front page

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of The Evening Post was this slowly

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hundred spot mr. gates over City and I

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saw that Saudis my mother and she

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couldn't believe it she couldn't leave

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your story and she regretted so much

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you're coming up to see the lights who

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need to see aircraft in there so that's

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pretty much the story really you cannot

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be a last weekend you to the

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photographing you've made a mark on my

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video I check my video listen you see

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Jerry instructional yeah and here it is

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there's only three miles away but yeah

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it's another perspective this your job

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largely must've been because I can

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clearly see the first witnesses you the

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first witness to be trapped outside

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Swansea

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it's incredible [\h__\h] mysterious

295
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unfortunately slomique i can't remember

296
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the exact time of his sighting it could

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have been after the huge object that was

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seemingly on gaskets because the

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description is so different so you could

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have been afterwards but we we don't

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know where but it's important to have

302
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right just read a couple of others notes

303
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so that was well with me Alan Williams

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within the period between quarters of

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faith according to section 6 o'clock in

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the period between 5:30 and 4:45 from

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periods of 10 minutes mumbles yeah this

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Swansea Bay again and as Mothershead

309
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at the end got to that line under the

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light touches Mama's head watched with

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with the naked eye on through binoculars

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two very bright lights about the length

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of a Boeing 747 apart no shape was

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discernible but lights were over the

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lifeguard station at Momo's the lifeboat

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station right the lights were all the

317
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labels lifeguard station and that's two

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thousand feet maximum after to it one

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mile away from the observer its

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movements were described as being steady

321
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changing as an Emirati

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report so we don't know who the

323
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witnesses reforms of the redact he's

324
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chosen us to protect people's identity

325
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and between also between 5:45 and 6:45

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against their boat large window of time

327
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there overkill away hello good shot an

328
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observer located outdoors on petrol

329
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Gotham roads which is in the north of

330
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Swansea select an uptick Joe observed an

331
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object fight for five to ten minutes

332
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moving slowly around a TV bust he was

333
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described as being one object split into

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two parts three very bright flashing

335
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white lights at the front and three at

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the back massive in size all belong and

337
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shared no Sun on cross smell again

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position like time is difficult to tell

339
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:04,410
just judging but I like to stay assume

340
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this or not again that was an emerald e5

341
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:17,130
so he doesn't know there's a chance to

342
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forget that you have to know there's a

343
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chance that some of these objects seen

344
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are the same object food like different

345
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people at the same time it's just

346
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important to remember that it gives the

347
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that's between 5:30 to 5:45

348
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so the one in mumbles was actually

349
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slightly before the young Gaskin saw

350
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that one shot under two though on the

351
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finery okay so that's later next one

352
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that 550 this is at the same time as

353
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Leon Gaskins was looking at it from

354
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kitchen window in skewing Morris turn

355
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over a period of six minutes an observer

356
00:23:37,299 --> 00:23:28,200
located upon he'll tell a cobbler which

357
00:23:42,260 --> 00:23:37,309
is coming else yeah to get your balance

358
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:42,270
ten to six reported seeing two objects

359
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traveling at a steady rate west to east

360
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from the DVR see as it was then the DVLA

361
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,190
now in morosely notes where you could

362
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:52,559
send your driving licenses off well

363
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that's

364
00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:56,309
Morriston the top towards kill the hill

365
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so he was traveling through harvest and

366
00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:01,200
them to that and the observer was there

367
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,380
that was a ten to six if you remember

368
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:06,720
the ungass skins a quarter to six was

369
00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:08,450
watching an object over killed a hill

370
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:12,990
and then fly that way this witness saw

371
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:17,580
it or sway or a lot sorta objects

372
00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:21,110
traveling a steady rate from Lauriston

373
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done to go may help one object was a

374
00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:30,840
long elongated shape with two pulsating

375
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:32,100
white lights at the front and two

376
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:34,130
yellowish steady lights on the rear the

377
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:36,690
second object was small and triangular

378
00:24:45,790 --> 00:24:39,809
with steady white lights no sound or

379
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:47,750
correspondence actually to the next

380
00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:50,480
several witnesses who were two CID

381
00:24:57,789 --> 00:24:52,820
officers one was a detective start

382
00:24:59,169 --> 00:24:57,799
Detective Inspector this is one of the

383
00:25:01,139 --> 00:24:59,179
offices knowing how to as the inspector

384
00:25:04,509 --> 00:25:01,149
massage so this is Mike trochus

385
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alcoholic Steve drusen we visited Mike

386
00:25:11,139 --> 00:25:07,519
troch gentleman on the left that would

387
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:11,149
say it obviously and he gave us a full

388
00:25:15,340 --> 00:25:13,250
story of what Bob what's what's

389
00:25:21,789 --> 00:25:15,350
happening back one shot that might

390
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:21,799
forget oh just up there well that last

391
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:26,000
observer was the - CID officers were

392
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:27,769
actually calling on our hosts they've

393
00:25:31,419 --> 00:25:29,330
been the spectre burglar reason yeah we

394
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:31,429
only were walking up it's very hilly

395
00:25:35,950 --> 00:25:33,440
area they were walking up the road up

396
00:25:37,779 --> 00:25:35,960
the steps to the house and one of them

397
00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:37,789
turned to see these lights come in

398
00:25:47,049 --> 00:25:41,470
across the valley from west to east

399
00:25:48,669 --> 00:25:47,059
and the next chart this shows it a joy

400
00:25:53,950 --> 00:25:48,679
he did a drawing of what he saw

401
00:25:56,169 --> 00:25:53,960
initially in doing the drawing last

402
00:26:01,090 --> 00:25:56,179
drawing he said one of the objects that

403
00:26:03,129 --> 00:26:01,100
he saw you don't get to shape like to

404
00:26:16,750 --> 00:26:03,139
sit on the edge with two triangular

405
00:26:22,420 --> 00:26:19,020
the light suicides e-signal blue

406
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:22,430
flashing and two blue triangles at the

407
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:25,910
back as it would look good he was coming

408
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:37,840
who's going across across that way and

409
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:38,930
then when they got the point about

410
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:40,490
something - until they left and headed

411
00:26:54,810 --> 00:26:50,460
we said they came on the radio in the

412
00:26:56,010 --> 00:26:54,820
car but many many people were forming in

413
00:27:00,540 --> 00:26:56,020
of the trainer's they that they were

414
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:00,550
seeing it also when they go back to the

415
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,000
police station two hours later they said

416
00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:07,440
that our re f acts Bridget and fondant

417
00:27:15,810 --> 00:27:11,680
and with set questions and they had the

418
00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:15,820
answer to an interview on the telephone

419
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:20,740
separately go back to the Octagon he

420
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:24,130
said it turned slowly which then showed

421
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:27,910
the rectangle shape the to try the two

422
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:32,080
blue try hours were flashing there was

423
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,330
no sound they were also told that the

424
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:39,600
football game alerts have been stopped

425
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:43,210
while everybody looked up as he went

426
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,370
over Swansea Bay

427
00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:46,840
we haven't actually found out what

428
00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:52,420
football team that was yet yeah the

429
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:54,550
police officer guessing James we tracked

430
00:27:59,760 --> 00:27:56,490
him down immediate winter lieutenant and

431
00:28:01,680 --> 00:27:59,770
he was follows Mike's testimony but

432
00:28:04,980 --> 00:28:01,690
there was some slight variations which

433
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:04,990
you often get between witnesses also due

434
00:28:15,270 --> 00:28:09,910
to the fact it was so long ago Mike said

435
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:15,280
that the the wet or swansea turn left

436
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:17,470
before the end of the site in which

437
00:28:23,790 --> 00:28:22,330
which is what Mike said and he also said

438
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:23,800
the girl in the control room said that

439
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:27,010
reports from case place which is near

440
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:29,650
morester come in and she was mocking

441
00:28:35,790 --> 00:28:34,510
Italy making fun of it but then they

442
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:35,800
made you and then to say that they had

443
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:48,230
nice and light

444
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:59,770
yeah that shows the area

445
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:10,310
the mob long show

446
00:29:16,910 --> 00:29:12,500
I think they can't really exact what

447
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:16,920
time votives the time good evening

448
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:19,170
that's all I can say that's portal but

449
00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:31,380
let's deal with Mattel bus five past six

450
00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:34,070
to be moving all of it in time no

451
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:36,660
witness reported a silver-colored

452
00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:40,110
source saucer-shaped object showing four

453
00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:42,020
or five lights flashing and rotation

454
00:29:48,770 --> 00:29:44,580
seeing an emotional scene motionless in

455
00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:48,780
the sky over the steelworks few minutes

456
00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:50,790
later it was joined by second new earth

457
00:29:59,930 --> 00:29:52,350
on the two of them would have towards

458
00:30:01,460 --> 00:29:59,940
Swansea that's here John

459
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:01,470
it doesn't actually say the shape of the

460
00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:22,000
okay that's well no but there's a good

461
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:26,150
Melissa's be given aquiline these this

462
00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:27,710
is actually our first interview on site

463
00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:31,030
when we first started a few years ago

464
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:33,740
I'm actually track this going down even

465
00:30:42,910 --> 00:30:39,260
always turn into jaws imagine there's a

466
00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:42,920
lot of Jones here he's not a witness

467
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:45,830
his father was a witness his father was

468
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:49,130
the driving instructor the gem of the

469
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:52,130
name of pork loin Jones might say left a

470
00:30:59,230 --> 00:30:57,890
new place not feel jewels the Sun or he

471
00:31:00,610 --> 00:30:59,240
said that this father always maintained

472
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:00,620
the story or for years and years and

473
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:03,310
years but he never made it public and

474
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:06,230
Phil what did the public but the honor

475
00:31:11,410 --> 00:31:08,240
his father's wishes and he waited until

476
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:11,420
his father passed away in 2012 before

477
00:31:16,810 --> 00:31:14,690
putting it online and I think 2013 evils

478
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:16,820
look when I count up for the website UK

479
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:19,520
you were thought called on you okay a

480
00:31:26,590 --> 00:31:22,850
lot of public go on about to put their

481
00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:26,600
own stories it well I found that I found

482
00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:30,700
the story and it's just in Phil Jones

483
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,640
works with all authority so I owe ya I

484
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:39,200
thought that the council I second

485
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:41,810
speaker Phil Jones please I said they

486
00:31:46,510 --> 00:31:44,380
see if it's one of them attend alone I

487
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:46,520
said I was sure I think he's a how was

488
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:48,530
it office I know that so they put me

489
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:51,650
through to Jones first time is it

490
00:31:57,820 --> 00:31:54,710
and then we arranged to meet up and I

491
00:31:58,300 --> 00:31:57,830
was sailing all that Phil Satan is on

492
00:32:02,110 --> 00:31:58,310
words

493
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:02,120
oh by the way this isn't long walks

494
00:32:09,740 --> 00:32:04,610
Avenue in a British the appellants which

495
00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:19,169
this is a 650 what's the streets that's

496
00:32:30,650 --> 00:32:27,280
the street without knowing blessing to

497
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:30,660
the sky here we go party notice is used

498
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:32,650
attention was drawn that is rather

499
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:34,330
believes that the two houses next door

500
00:32:40,529 --> 00:32:37,150
next door but one on which he saw a

501
00:32:45,870 --> 00:32:40,539
large button craft because there it was

502
00:32:48,539 --> 00:32:45,880
above the sea he was going on to a

503
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:48,549
driving lesson as he got down to his car

504
00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:53,110
here you noticed his attention was drawn

505
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,390
to the roofs at the two houses next door

506
00:33:02,039 --> 00:32:58,240
next door but one from which he saw a

507
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:02,049
large black and craft it was about thus

508
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:03,760
he described it as being about the size

509
00:33:07,169 --> 00:33:06,880
of the family saloon car triangular in

510
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:07,179
shape

511
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:10,960
it was blacker than the night sky and

512
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:12,970
then on the on the three corners of this

513
00:33:18,299 --> 00:33:16,510
craft was a small hole and then at the

514
00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:18,309
bottom of that hole was a very bright

515
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:22,630
small but very bright white light before

516
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:25,090
the craft came between the two houses

517
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:29,200
here it then descended below the heart

518
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:32,950
of the house at a walking pace across

519
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:37,630
the road and then ascended back up on

520
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:40,510
several phases it came up on two or

521
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:43,450
three phases and just about managed to

522
00:33:50,669 --> 00:33:46,620
miss the roof of the house opposite

523
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:50,679
number 15 15 check that one there knows

524
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:55,450
the scaffolding yeah yeah it he said it

525
00:34:41,309 --> 00:33:57,130
was that close he was waiting for the

526
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:45,700
so you see who's about what size up

527
00:34:54,339 --> 00:34:52,399
about the size of my family some museums

528
00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:54,349
a triangle shape what was it like a big

529
00:35:01,650 --> 00:34:57,139
like a little triangle yes it was yeah

530
00:35:04,299 --> 00:35:01,660
yeah yeah as I say several people were

531
00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:04,309
reporters have you seen these aircraft

532
00:35:10,420 --> 00:35:06,440
in the night sky on that particular ad

533
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:10,430
question but this is versus this is my

534
00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:12,710
sister this is what I heard that is the

535
00:35:27,099 --> 00:35:16,220
lowest yeah yeah yeah so you can imagine

536
00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:27,109
it come over the roof down below the

537
00:35:32,049 --> 00:35:29,960
height of the roof how long would it

538
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:32,059
take five six seconds to cross the road

539
00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:34,970
and walking pace the Menace I say then

540
00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:38,270
ascended again just about clear that

541
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:41,080
roof literally by an in children

542
00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:43,390
and then my father having run up here

543
00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:46,300
between the gap in the two houses who

544
00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:49,060
noticed it descend in a game and making

545
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:51,460
its way down there well whether actually

546
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:55,330
left did it leave it velocity or did it

547
00:35:59,490 --> 00:35:56,110
just disappear

548
00:36:02,190 --> 00:35:59,500
well my father lost sight of it booths

549
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:02,200
between these houses and it didn't lead

550
00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:04,450
ephesus the speeders concert it was a

551
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:06,700
concert what you what he described as a

552
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:10,480
slow to medium walking pace and that's

553
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,250
how it ascended over that roof he ran

554
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:17,440
over here saw between the two houses the

555
00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:20,350
gap there he managed to botch it descend

556
00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:22,840
back down below with a house level again

557
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:25,240
and head off in that direction towards

558
00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:29,110
the Swansea Bay and as I said he said

559
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:30,520
that as far as he was concerned the

560
00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:33,430
speeders continually who was essentially

561
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:35,350
the what if there's any selling to look

562
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:39,370
about the only sounds that he could hear

563
00:36:59,339 --> 00:36:42,130
was a very low deep and I'll do it for

564
00:36:59,349 --> 00:37:17,880
always oh yeah we

565
00:37:32,109 --> 00:37:31,480
going on to a driving lesson okay wrong

566
00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:32,119
choice

567
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:35,270
I filled your school is that's amazing

568
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:37,849
psychic you've so close to it you could

569
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:41,599
actually hear a song from it can you go

570
00:37:52,359 --> 00:37:48,220
well again yeah it's a photograph that

571
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:52,369
we took my lights just to give a feel of

572
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:55,490
what waffle enjoys how things like you

573
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:57,170
know obviously was it was a night I

574
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:02,000
think she saw me from left to right when

575
00:38:05,770 --> 00:38:03,410
he said you've dipped down into the road

576
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:05,780
and walking base and he thought we gonna

577
00:38:10,030 --> 00:38:07,130
hit the house across the road but they

578
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:10,040
clung together literally again around

579
00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:14,690
his leg okay now the left straight down

580
00:38:19,150 --> 00:38:17,390
from well the next two streets down for

581
00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:19,160
the long walks Avenue we've got

582
00:38:27,490 --> 00:38:23,060
beechwood road when this ladies will

583
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:27,500
Natalie modo she was a teenager still in

584
00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:30,770
school the being in this house at the

585
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:34,940
time and she has an amazing story to

586
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:38,930
tell began she couldn't she didn't know

587
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:40,609
the exact time but bearing in mind it

588
00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:43,070
was just two streets down from the last

589
00:38:48,250 --> 00:38:46,550
sighting we obviously got a link the two

590
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:48,260
together even though what she saw it

591
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:50,810
wasn't size of my family so it was

592
00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:52,190
actually much bigger in fact it was

593
00:38:57,820 --> 00:38:53,660
sorbet she couldn't see the end the

594
00:39:00,160 --> 00:38:57,830
sight she just can remember what she

595
00:39:03,590 --> 00:39:00,170
described as a stadium of like so the

596
00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:03,600
football stadium shaper of colors

597
00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:05,190
[Music]

598
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:08,080
pants underneath an object which are

599
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:10,150
dark she couldn't see the edges of it it

600
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:12,010
was hot rate stationary or the both of

601
00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:14,530
the house and I'm not telling any more

602
00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:17,740
but let Natalie explain what in her own

603
00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:23,460
lovely this is her boudoir from the

604
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:25,030
front door actually this is the house

605
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:26,370
across the road

606
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:33,070
this object filled the whole sky this is

607
00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:34,630
a joint she did a bit that's the host

608
00:39:39,590 --> 00:39:37,480
across this stadium of lux that she

609
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:39,600
displayed is just above the rooftops

610
00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:41,710
there were other people in the street as

611
00:39:56,010 --> 00:39:47,080
well not be helping it come back to that

612
00:40:02,740 --> 00:39:59,410
good god this is not to convince anyone

613
00:40:05,710 --> 00:40:02,750
this is you know my soy for me but at

614
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:05,720
least convince anyone okay so in this

615
00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:08,210
house of 13 I was sitting in the back

616
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:12,470
room which is next to kitchen one

617
00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:34,780
follow me here

618
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:42,230
I mean streets of this city of the

619
00:40:47,859 --> 00:40:44,210
central parts of it is as I said before

620
00:41:04,060 --> 00:40:47,869
a sinking ship maker but the windows

621
00:41:04,690 --> 00:41:04,070
like this sighs but those are always in

622
00:41:07,450 --> 00:41:04,700
my head

623
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:07,460
also time again thank you what's it

624
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,930
doing that I didn't see the

625
00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:10,880
circumference of it because it was

626
00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:11,390
immense

627
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:13,670
you know it's a black space well I was

628
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:17,119
focusing Israelites country so looking

629
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:19,910
at me wondering why is that good five

630
00:41:22,370 --> 00:41:20,820
minutes

631
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,380
and your mother needs the water in the

632
00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:24,960
party not for me sense of urgency and

633
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:28,860
logically explain it in my head so it

634
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,510
couldn't make any sense of it and then I

635
00:41:34,610 --> 00:41:32,400
thought people here that's us so I

636
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:34,620
vertical so I start swinging in my house

637
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:40,050
- cool my sister and my stepmother so

638
00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:41,970
they came right because I suppose with

639
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:44,940
so much commotion by the maids in the

640
00:41:50,450 --> 00:41:48,030
streets can I sit - across there to

641
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:50,460
appear one customer so basically in the

642
00:41:56,270 --> 00:41:52,310
end there's but my entire us looking at

643
00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:56,280
listening the other thing is is that it

644
00:42:00,140 --> 00:41:58,200
wasn't cold anymore the signs in the

645
00:42:02,780 --> 00:42:00,150
street give you the fella Topeka that

646
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:02,790
dropped you eat here we go you're a

647
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:06,810
second oh I got just still miss you so

648
00:42:11,570 --> 00:42:07,200
much

649
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:11,580
no sign that this thing but but what was

650
00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:13,290
that father my sister finally come out

651
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:17,190
there based I'm waiting Utah and they're

652
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:18,690
looking at it and I'm like can you

653
00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:20,730
believe in her to see you a house

654
00:42:31,150 --> 00:42:24,150
you know he's like wow yeah you know

655
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:34,400
after this point my stepfather and my

656
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:37,290
sister didn't get along I not just to

657
00:42:42,410 --> 00:42:39,450
set the scene because it's not normal

658
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:42,420
what they didn't he walked in I said

659
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:44,130
will you do it man he's like I've seen

660
00:42:48,890 --> 00:42:46,410
enough so he stretched out and picked

661
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:48,900
mechanically but feeling it follows that

662
00:42:55,410 --> 00:42:52,570
mrs. suppose exactly the same actually

663
00:42:57,630 --> 00:42:55,420
sending arson is just ultimate which is

664
00:43:02,640 --> 00:42:57,640
not more quickly she would never ever

665
00:43:05,609 --> 00:43:02,650
put studies so they might watch me go

666
00:43:08,609 --> 00:43:05,619
that's a Vanessa it's been five minutes

667
00:43:10,290 --> 00:43:08,619
LSAT or minor I hope that might make

668
00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:10,300
another five minutes tape on it

669
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:15,150
I understand that and it's fortunate

670
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:17,530
muttering you know just asking your

671
00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:18,359
questions

672
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:22,270
mentally you know telepathically sending

673
00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:24,550
it and what's going on why you there

674
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:28,380
what you do it you know take it away

675
00:43:32,820 --> 00:43:30,520
laughter to give you another perspective

676
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:32,830
the board's best warranty it's better

677
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:34,630
kiss you just joking around or just

678
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:36,550
looking for something that's an object

679
00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:37,690
in some sense

680
00:43:44,070 --> 00:43:40,900
so after another five maybe ten minutes

681
00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:44,080
iris yeah I was just worried yeah I was

682
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:45,880
just looking at it and then what was I

683
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:47,770
think wasn't met as clear start looking

684
00:43:52,020 --> 00:43:50,470
at YouTube I didn't see you move you

685
00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:52,030
just won't marry me was just blank space

686
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:54,670
I can see the stars it don't hold its

687
00:43:59,790 --> 00:43:56,940
wings yeah you know that means stillness

688
00:44:05,190 --> 00:43:59,800
that's nobody other straight for me to

689
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:05,200
cost me for I saw was the central bit

690
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:06,490
folks I couldn't see the circumference

691
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:09,490
of it but I know that my sister we

692
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:10,810
discuss it will move back in

693
00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:14,170
she um I you know I I can carry just let

694
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:19,390
it set and manga but I didn't have that

695
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:21,670
I didn't see them that's gross - what I

696
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:25,690
see it move so I said must be a joke

697
00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:31,770
did you see outside Europe all right no

698
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,580
yeah I just could make a sense of it my

699
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:39,040
sister's you know said that she well no

700
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:40,570
she didn't we didn't discuss it but some

701
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:42,670
weird thing about all this is but we

702
00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:43,810
didn't discuss it at the neighbors over

703
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:44,260
there

704
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:46,230
nothing was discussed in this day no one

705
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:47,380
talked

706
00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:50,290
the next morning or the next day that my

707
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:51,820
stepfather got the news people being

708
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:54,640
oppressed and I just hope you don't a

709
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:57,190
page-one maybe your vote and it said

710
00:45:02,940 --> 00:44:59,290
satellites that are orbiting big letters

711
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:02,950
okay for a little story had big letters

712
00:45:22,350 --> 00:45:10,380
that's right like we just big blobs

713
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:22,360
things act like nasty also said that

714
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:24,490
them a couple of days later she was on

715
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:26,170
the show actually one hand she could

716
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:29,050
feel something in her hair and it was a

717
00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:32,890
bald patch when the skin was raised and

718
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:34,540
she still has a cousin I'm still bored

719
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:37,290
she showed a service what a fighter

720
00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:39,850
still it's still raised actually touched

721
00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:43,320
it it comes up above the scalp and

722
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:45,220
obviously familiar description of what

723
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,810
happened it's obvious isn't some sort of

724
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:48,400
missing plane which she can't remember

725
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:50,860
what happened but women it was all still

726
00:45:55,830 --> 00:45:52,450
and quiet and not cold even though it

727
00:45:57,450 --> 00:45:55,840
was a journey or evening I mean what

728
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:57,460
sudden it wasn't there anymore and the

729
00:46:00,080 --> 00:45:58,720
people in the street that would have

730
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,090
been watching it weren't there anymore

731
00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:03,280
honey was cold it was a bit of a breeze

732
00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:07,720
coming back at so this is it time

733
00:46:12,780 --> 00:46:10,600
adopted and she didn't know what

734
00:46:14,570 --> 00:46:12,790
happened and then another deforming to

735
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:14,580
get part of what she said was the

736
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:18,640
stepfather was so ok a bit blase about

737
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:21,430
opening the Anna sister just followed

738
00:46:26,940 --> 00:46:24,190
him in like automatically lady not on

739
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:26,950
time walking it is if you in cases where

740
00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:30,310
people are switched off where the

741
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:32,440
abductee is aware of what's happening

742
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:33,440
but

743
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:34,670
the rest of the families have switched

744
00:46:40,810 --> 00:46:37,970
off so I think that could be what

745
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:40,820
happened there so maybe we'll get in

746
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,770
touch of them nicely when they must have

747
00:46:48,370 --> 00:46:45,200
been Monica regression see what comes

748
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,380
out should be pretty cool but again it's

749
00:46:51,370 --> 00:46:49,760
important to remember that this is only

750
00:46:54,070 --> 00:46:51,380
two students done from where the

751
00:46:56,620 --> 00:46:54,080
driverless practice all this car-sized

752
00:46:59,100 --> 00:46:56,630
trying to going across the moat in the

753
00:47:02,140 --> 00:46:59,110
same direction where perhaps is roughly

754
00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:02,150
will just stick out the map even though

755
00:47:11,110 --> 00:47:04,100
we look for it was a triangle of us I'll

756
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:11,120
just put the triangle okay

757
00:47:24,970 --> 00:47:20,810
there's too close together and it's yeah

758
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:24,980
now this this place is 6:15 time is

759
00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:27,170
written in stone the witnesses remember

760
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:30,260
at 6:15 this is happening exactly the

761
00:48:54,730 --> 00:47:54,410
same time so this is this is the

762
00:48:59,350 --> 00:48:54,740
building is the left in between these

763
00:49:01,810 --> 00:48:59,360
houses you will see a huge strange but

764
00:49:03,970 --> 00:49:01,820
very likely to see there was the ship

765
00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:03,980
was flying around the front and when you

766
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:05,600
say the other side the triangle was a

767
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:08,240
red with a red length not the same that

768
00:50:10,080 --> 00:49:11,690
was the front this thing was in this

769
00:50:21,590 --> 00:50:16,520
[Music]

770
00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:24,600
it's off with the serger I just remember

771
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:30,060
the size say yeah I reckon one corner

772
00:50:38,130 --> 00:50:34,060
would be yeah half the lights of this

773
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:38,140
again yeah I'm going to point to that

774
00:50:41,310 --> 00:50:40,870
one I think good or which is gonna say

775
00:50:51,930 --> 00:50:41,320
that

776
00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:51,940
huge for our hopes to have a new team to

777
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:53,020
the

778
00:50:56,490 --> 00:50:55,630
with that so we start sighs I hope you

779
00:50:59,070 --> 00:50:56,500
saw something

780
00:51:03,060 --> 00:50:59,080
yeah pleasure but you couldn't find them

781
00:51:05,490 --> 00:51:03,070
changing in this we met our legs and I

782
00:51:37,070 --> 00:51:08,380
I couldn't see anything in Virginia that

783
00:51:37,080 --> 00:52:13,160
[Music]

784
00:52:18,550 --> 00:52:15,630
you see what

785
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:18,560
that before

786
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,380
[Music]

787
00:52:43,810 --> 00:52:41,590
I'm asleep that indicates that the

788
00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:43,820
retrieval times is there and then you

789
00:52:52,660 --> 00:52:45,950
can see it was just a light on these

790
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:52,670
points you know what sometimes I see

791
00:53:06,370 --> 00:52:55,760
news used up when he just really enjoy a

792
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:06,380
gesture so he sauce three trailers when

793
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:17,450
you came from the north and east to

794
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:24,770
before the officer directions passing

795
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:28,710
each other and then they headed off to

796
00:53:34,370 --> 00:53:31,710
the east also following the big one what

797
00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:34,380
did he do when he connects day oh yeah

798
00:53:39,110 --> 00:53:36,180
yeah he said following morning there was

799
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:39,120
a lot of military activity area military

800
00:53:44,090 --> 00:53:41,490
planes my god helicopters jets

801
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:44,100
he said he's really busy at the holiday

802
00:53:48,620 --> 00:53:46,470
but he listened this affected him so

803
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:48,630
much he did have an interest in UFOs he

804
00:53:52,970 --> 00:53:49,770
had a bit of a collection of you with

805
00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:52,980
low books and he took him all done them

806
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:56,550
the Goblin he he burned a lot he was so

807
00:53:59,930 --> 00:53:58,410
scared by economic said he closed his

808
00:54:06,860 --> 00:53:59,940
curtains he in the bedroom we didn't

809
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:06,870
pull the curtains pages so that was

810
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:08,610
happening exactly the same things off

811
00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:12,170
when John saw a small end of the road

812
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:14,760
the next one think we get time for one

813
00:54:23,390 --> 00:54:20,000
more phone break this is to the east of

814
00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:23,400
that last one this is a place called

815
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:49,500
JVMs this should be there

816
00:54:55,650 --> 00:54:51,750
this one's booked mind to the east of

817
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:55,660
the hospital farce Aloha the love calls

818
00:55:03,030 --> 00:54:59,200
out Alan crew comes in the streets

819
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:03,040
usually a young lights we painted it is

820
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:20,030
yes

821
00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:27,970
on like 20 protons and I suspect on the

822
00:55:35,609 --> 00:55:33,550
northwest of swati and he he was usually

823
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:35,619
nine years old at the time and he he was

824
00:55:41,790 --> 00:55:37,570
always with his cousin's house in port

825
00:55:43,830 --> 00:55:41,800
meat he don't need me love the house of

826
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:43,840
two minutes and something made him turn

827
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:46,960
around to see to triangular-shaped craft

828
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:50,170
in the sky he ran back home to tell his

829
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:55,330
grandmother who we lived with and she

830
00:56:00,500 --> 00:55:58,480
saw it she saw him to the objects went

831
00:56:04,410 --> 00:56:00,510
over rating our Park and out of sight

832
00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:04,420
traveling west to east so they could be

833
00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:07,390
two of the triangles does the three men

834
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:11,500
in gross - Olivia fortunate we don't

835
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:27,800
we must do this

836
00:56:34,250 --> 00:56:29,840
he said everyone in the air who lived in

837
00:56:36,650 --> 00:56:34,260
the area were looking a lot of people in

838
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:36,660
the street saw it they were traveling

839
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:40,110
very low with white lights no spotlights

840
00:56:44,540 --> 00:56:41,910
but there was no flashing lights just

841
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:44,550
white lights and he also told us that

842
00:56:50,810 --> 00:56:48,240
he's a God who was leaving work at the

843
00:56:52,610 --> 00:56:50,820
time another shock was he died after

844
00:57:01,280 --> 00:56:52,620
that he was walking along around to the

845
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:01,290
west of Swansea he was a relative's like

846
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:04,110
a her no not built up well so he was

847
00:57:07,730 --> 00:57:05,910
fast traffic I mean there's no paper

848
00:57:11,330 --> 00:57:07,740
with some walking along here to the road

849
00:57:12,620 --> 00:57:11,340
and he dived up the way of something can

850
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:12,630
they find any thought the lorry was

851
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:16,410
coming up behind it and he's gonna get

852
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:17,880
rid of it he'd I got the way into the

853
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:19,650
edge and but there's nothing in the

854
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:21,330
world but then he saw a triangle shape

855
00:57:32,060 --> 00:57:25,440
in the sky so could have been directing

856
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:32,070
Wallkill there yeah the young boy Alan

857
00:57:37,340 --> 00:57:33,900
and said to his grant there's eight

858
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:37,350
years you can never say that okay look

859
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:39,230
sound he was a safe a football pitch

860
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:43,170
which responds to the three men in Milan

861
00:57:51,099 --> 00:57:45,540
said the one over the house was massive

862
00:58:01,120 --> 00:57:58,569
okay it's not much but now moving up to

863
00:58:04,930 --> 00:58:01,130
Tom Hill it's been a bit busy smart this

864
00:58:07,449 --> 00:58:04,940
time builders in this area here so large

865
00:58:10,989 --> 00:58:07,459
Hill just took the north of the city

866
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:10,999
center to the west of kill Bay Hill the

867
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:12,650
difference between Tom Hillen kill Bay

868
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:16,249
Hill is completely built over and begin

869
00:58:21,579 --> 00:58:18,049
tonight 20 times in the state built on

870
00:58:23,319 --> 00:58:21,589
the top and just like that I called mark

871
00:58:26,890 --> 00:58:23,329
ray worth he was a young boy at the time

872
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:26,900
he was ups with his mother and sister

873
00:58:46,269 --> 00:58:30,529
label even one friend and market le tell

874
00:58:47,820 --> 00:58:46,279
you my friend on he was roughly around

875
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:47,830
Sam

876
00:58:54,780 --> 00:58:50,020
[Applause]

877
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:54,790
so here my mother said look at that the

878
00:59:01,350 --> 00:58:58,090
Slayer will be locked at the stake like

879
00:59:02,070 --> 00:59:01,360
that's two huge travels biggest things

880
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:02,080
I've ever seen

881
00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:04,240
one in front with the other left moves

882
00:59:08,310 --> 00:59:06,220
it from there the right one just fart

883
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:08,320
they have a seat very slowly normalized

884
00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:11,890
to them talk remember 3 weight rings and

885
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:13,660
the default and the lights worn off also

886
00:59:21,870 --> 00:59:18,250
you see the two threads school I would

887
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:21,880
say roughly I must be - you know nothing

888
00:59:35,550 --> 00:59:32,490
wrong I just remember the statement I

889
00:59:37,710 --> 00:59:35,560
said if they were the people down here I

890
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:37,720
would say we've been to four pitches

891
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:46,890
Nigeria they hardly moved

892
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:50,890
that sound we left the Hollywood no snow

893
00:59:54,570 --> 00:59:52,330
at all

894
01:00:01,820 --> 00:59:54,580
that's my mother that said let's go in

895
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:01,830
yet because we have taken a fiddle the

896
01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:04,930
shoot better coming off my mother broke

897
01:00:12,590 --> 01:00:08,260
me that it was just getting done it was

898
01:00:17,490 --> 01:00:14,849
yeah there was a white ring underneath

899
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:17,500
and there was soem the Analects what

900
01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:18,880
Blake swore off all over it

901
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,400
so it's things if they wanted to be

902
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:31,080
it was deep imagine the sickness is the

903
01:00:37,810 --> 01:00:34,370
thinnest yeah

904
01:00:39,850 --> 01:00:37,820
and we know use that thickness but it

905
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:39,860
was quite deep but looking light they

906
01:00:45,610 --> 01:00:43,910
Lord the Lord shall but they weren't

907
01:00:47,260 --> 01:00:45,620
specific they were doing just a bit so

908
01:00:52,890 --> 01:00:47,270
these were senior Henry himself

909
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:52,900
yeah yeah good tune get a shot of the

910
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:55,430
you can get a mark punching up to

911
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:17,940
yeah

912
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:19,740
mark said that they were heading itself

913
01:01:25,620 --> 01:01:22,720
to big margins that people to see though

914
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:25,630
they could have been the two seen by the

915
01:01:32,190 --> 01:01:29,609
last witness over the houses but he

916
01:01:34,140 --> 01:01:32,200
could discrepancy there because he said

917
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:34,150
it was at seven o'clock but he just got

918
01:01:49,970 --> 01:01:36,730
dark in January get stuff a lot earlier

919
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:53,720
himself okay safely one more tip

920
01:02:01,099 --> 01:01:56,790
language logarithm break in there okay

921
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:01,109
that's great I don't know that this is

922
01:02:06,109 --> 01:02:03,450
doing all the talking but that's the

923
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:06,119
sort of view over the bay from his

924
01:02:10,490 --> 01:02:07,890
location in town he'll okay

925
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:10,500
Popeye up very high up back in fact he's

926
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,930
what six only feet above sea level at

927
01:02:16,819 --> 01:02:14,880
the top of the hill so when he said it

928
01:02:18,530 --> 01:02:16,829
was five hundred feet up up he means

929
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:18,540
five hundred feet up from where you are

930
01:02:23,329 --> 01:02:21,540
site altitude above sea level you talked

931
01:02:28,819 --> 01:02:23,339
about thousand feet to the two triangles

932
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:28,829
okay next one right this is also in

933
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:31,890
sauna health this is a fella called

934
01:02:38,770 --> 01:03:02,339
[Music]

935
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:05,530
hey remember he was he just come from

936
01:03:10,930 --> 01:03:08,240
work and he said that he was hunting the

937
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:10,940
street and he saw two triangles on the

938
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:14,810
baby and his locations about quarter of

939
01:03:21,820 --> 01:03:16,970
a mile from the last club further east

940
01:03:23,230 --> 01:03:21,830
and he said when he got work with farm

941
01:03:24,310 --> 01:03:23,240
in Davis little people lots of people

942
01:03:26,980 --> 01:03:24,320
were talking about it because other

943
01:03:35,010 --> 01:03:26,990
people living in the nee therian

944
01:03:35,020 --> 01:03:40,060
okay

945
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:43,780
like judy thomas this this wasn't even

946
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:46,370
the post a couple days later this is in

947
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:48,410
the bottom UFO spotting mrs. Jim Thomas

948
01:03:53,530 --> 01:03:50,810
is drawing or the to try out my objects

949
01:03:59,830 --> 01:03:53,540
the angles of the triangle where mrs.

950
01:04:01,900 --> 01:03:59,840
Thomas saw flashing lights my Jim I've

951
01:04:03,970 --> 01:04:01,910
been trained for her ages to Travis Lee

952
01:04:05,980 --> 01:04:03,980
you don't look anything to Thomas today

953
01:04:09,070 --> 01:04:05,990
it's like Phil Jones is a very common

954
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:09,080
name Wells but she suddenly she turned

955
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:12,160
up whatever we did was later and

956
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:14,510
basically is because I put something in

957
01:04:18,190 --> 01:04:16,370
the local paper have a place in the

958
01:04:19,780 --> 01:04:18,200
meeting and I may be produced to a

959
01:04:23,530 --> 01:04:19,790
drawing that she didn't she recognized

960
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:23,540
it in the paper at the time she was

961
01:04:30,790 --> 01:04:27,430
working in a factory called viscosity

962
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:30,800
used to make sponges and the factory was

963
01:04:35,590 --> 01:04:33,290
in the marina area through remember that

964
01:04:38,110 --> 01:04:35,600
photograph from earlier showing the

965
01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:38,120
marina and the sub stock she was CC

966
01:04:42,550 --> 01:04:40,310
front basically she's just leaving work

967
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,560
she's leaving work a little bit early

968
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:44,960
for the husband or boyfriend was coming

969
01:04:50,260 --> 01:04:49,010
to pick it up with the pictures and she

970
01:04:53,830 --> 01:04:50,270
came up the gate to the factory she

971
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:53,840
turned and she saw three not not the two

972
01:05:00,070 --> 01:04:55,760
trade was reported in the paper but

973
01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:00,080
three huge triangles to the south over

974
01:05:06,580 --> 01:05:03,280
the bay over the waters of the bay and

975
01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:06,590
Cheney caught the bits of the other one

976
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,480
of them are they disappeared going them

977
01:05:11,590 --> 01:05:10,160
through the factory but then she she

978
01:05:13,330 --> 01:05:11,600
just don't see the other two but she

979
01:05:14,740 --> 01:05:13,340
knew there were three there and they

980
01:05:18,670 --> 01:05:14,750
were they were going to the south

981
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:18,680
I'm turning left to spur Talbert saw I'm

982
01:05:25,630 --> 01:05:22,880
conjecturing that these could be the two

983
01:05:34,110 --> 01:05:25,640
of the months seen going over the over

984
01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:36,910
so they've had it done and it was plus

985
01:05:46,540 --> 01:05:44,660
Albert okay so that's right we've gone

986
01:05:51,250 --> 01:05:46,550
up to Swansea now we heading down dr.

987
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:51,260
Costa twisted pork or import all it was

988
01:05:59,970 --> 01:05:54,890
a German learning with John Norman who

989
01:06:04,000 --> 01:05:59,980
was in the Porthcawl Rugby Club feels

990
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:04,010
waiting for the game to start useful

991
01:06:11,140 --> 01:06:06,050
back then and he was supporting his

992
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:11,150
local site babbler played for four was

993
01:06:19,660 --> 01:06:14,720
fine denotes so many as I get her messed

994
01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:19,670
up no he this gentleman doesn't wallow

995
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:21,440
didn't want to be interviewed

996
01:06:27,490 --> 01:06:25,090
we just took loss on telephone

997
01:06:34,020 --> 01:06:27,500
he said he basically was at use that

998
01:06:36,670 --> 01:06:34,030
spoke on rap he feels and he saw this

999
01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:36,680
object come over the field to think the

1000
01:07:03,910 --> 01:06:42,500
next shot number 25 it's a shot they got

1001
01:07:13,210 --> 01:07:06,430
he said he was 600 feet up over both

1002
01:07:18,130 --> 01:07:13,220
tall and traveling west to east so he's

1003
01:07:18,140 --> 01:07:23,760
tell me mr. Easter's will not wait

1004
01:07:23,770 --> 01:07:29,510
okay next please

1005
01:07:34,460 --> 01:07:31,760
like we go and throw them up further all

1006
01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:34,470
the way again this is Cardiff and this

1007
01:07:51,490 --> 01:07:40,680
next story comes from your handout a

1008
01:07:55,070 --> 01:07:53,180
Carol Griffiths

1009
01:08:01,640 --> 01:07:55,080
she was travelling in a car through the

1010
01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:01,650
area Llandaff which is just one of its

1011
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:04,350
have achieved in a car mother husband's

1012
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:08,310
pants colleague from where he was a

1013
01:08:15,650 --> 01:08:12,090
doctor with an Indian name of doctor

1014
01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:15,660
Moreau been drunk Deb practices and

1015
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:19,380
carefully and they're traveling well

1016
01:08:24,230 --> 01:08:21,210
I've just passed and planned up were all

1017
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:24,240
in club and I shot this way and she said

1018
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:26,670
her husband stopped the car because he

1019
01:08:36,650 --> 01:08:32,130
saw this object Oh what's the press

1020
01:08:38,269 --> 01:08:36,660
cousin oh my god she said my husband

1021
01:08:40,190 --> 01:08:38,279
stopped the car we was so amazed it

1022
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:40,200
looked like calm court taking off but he

1023
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:42,930
was stationary in the sky they normally

1024
01:08:48,499 --> 01:08:44,730
poopoo things like that there had to be

1025
01:08:50,749 --> 01:08:48,509
a UFO mrs. Griffith dis husband John

1026
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:50,759
works with her the air call limited the

1027
01:08:54,559 --> 01:08:52,170
Catholic communications company

1028
01:08:56,930 --> 01:08:54,569
Cathedral Awards said he saw similar

1029
01:09:00,559 --> 01:08:56,940
object above penguin earlier in the

1030
01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,569
evening passenger in the car the doctor

1031
01:09:04,579 --> 01:09:02,880
mentioned earlier said the object seems

1032
01:09:07,130 --> 01:09:04,589
fixed in the sky I don't know what he

1033
01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:07,140
was I was looking at I've never seen

1034
01:09:17,329 --> 01:09:14,480
the first thing but before that that was

1035
01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:17,339
but police at the time said between 6:00

1036
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,620
p.m. and 7:00 p.m. the South Wales

1037
01:09:24,499 --> 01:09:21,600
police have received a number of calls

1038
01:09:26,780 --> 01:09:24,509
reporting your thoughts the first

1039
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:26,790
sighting reported for flashing lights in

1040
01:09:30,410 --> 01:09:29,130
the sky within minutes to detected

1041
01:09:33,499 --> 01:09:30,420
reported watching a side

1042
01:09:37,099 --> 01:09:33,509
object triangular in shape drift west of

1043
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:37,109
the swansea we talked about earlier we

1044
01:09:40,999 --> 01:09:38,400
said he was playing at a thousand feet

1045
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:41,009
three lights too much capacity he was

1046
01:09:48,169 --> 01:09:45,330
fond of a smaller samar object the RAF

1047
01:09:49,970 --> 01:09:48,179
received two similar reports a police

1048
01:09:52,519 --> 01:09:49,980
spokesman said the reports would be

1049
01:09:55,220 --> 01:09:52,529
treated seriously the president we have

1050
01:09:58,610 --> 01:09:55,230
not got a clue but inquiries will delay

1051
01:10:03,169 --> 01:09:58,620
ET concert the next shorter than the

1052
01:10:04,610 --> 01:10:03,179
penalty but though now this is the only